Bill Johnson Interview

by Oliver Mitchell   (photo by Barry Newman)
Copyright 2000 - Cosmic Debris Musicians Magazine - Issue #66 - May, 2000

Bill Johnson - bn photo     "It's a thing of beauty isn't it", said Bill Johnson. On his workbench stood a tattered tweed amplifier with an array of coloured components squirming out.
    "A 57 Fender," he grinned, "belongs to Dave Gogo."
    "Wow, you must be a good technician if he'd chose you to work on it," I replied.
    "Well, I don't want to say I'm a good guitarist... but as a guitarist I can understand the tonal requirements of tweaking a tube-amp."
    Welcome to Bill Johnson's music store, Victoria Vintage Guitar & Amplifier, located in Fernwood village underneath The George & Dragon Inn.
    Though small, the store shines with unusual instruments and fair prices. If you are a blues, roots or country player... you've got to visit on a regular basis... and you'll find something you need. And if you are a beginner you can get a great secondhand guitar dirt cheap too.
    Some repairs are done in the store while others are contracted out to. For instance, Rod Evans, creator of the famed pickups who has been fixing amps for 30 years. Or if you want music lessons, a Berklee music grad called David Augustin can propell you to new realms of guitar and bass technique. Occasionally you will find Paul Pigat working there too.
    It seems that every time I go to Bill's store I learn something, and today the subject was tube amplifiers!
   BJ: "A tube amp is only worth having if it's working right, and that means finding the old components that have drifted out of value. Many parts for these amps aren't made anymore; for instance high-voltage capacitors. So, it has taken me a while to source them out at this point.
    "I want to urge you to be very careful, as the voltages in tube amps can run between 350 to 700 volts. This can blow the end of your finger off or even kill you. So just because the amp is unplugged, that won't protect you, as 700 volts may be sitting in the filter caps.
    "Basically, we can overhaul an amp with quality tubes, cleaning the pots, biasing the output tubes properly and listening to the damn thing... because even if the meter and the scope say it's working right, but my ears tell me otherwise, then I'll find that bug. There's a factor of X' there too.
    "Then again there are some amps which will never sound any better, like late 70's to early 80's Fender amps, they just sound that way. But some of the older Fender & Marshall amps are like the lowest common denominator or the square root of the idea."
    OM: "I don't understand."
    BJ: "Well basically in the late 50's, the blueprint was drawn up for the best amplifier... and really, since the early 60's, we've just modified that design. By the mid 70's it really began to get out of hand. Diode-clipping amps were introduced in the 80's which essentially have distortion pedals built into them. Happily, the 90's have brought a renaissance in tub amps with names like Matchless', Top Hat', Clarke' and Victoria'. Unfortunately we rarely see these locally as they are expensive, starting at $2000. They are designed by engineers who know what makes an amp sound better and where the tone of an electric guitar comes from."
    OM: "This sounds very interesting."
    BJ: "The heart and soul of an amplifier lie in the transformer. In 1960 there was some old gaffer with a pair of pliers and a roll of wire, winding copper and insulating it with paper. The tone produced is very different than if a machine mass-produces and insulates the transformer with plastic. You see, the composition is different. It's the same with a guitar you might buy in the 80's, made of basewood... or in the 70's, made from six pieces of ash laminated together. The factories were maximizing profits by using cheap materials."
    OM: "A hand-wired tube amp not only sounds great then, it must be a good investment."
    BJ: "Absolutely. I've got three or four Fender Bandmasters here from the 60's. For $300 or $400, you can buy a good head. People should be snapping these things up while they are available because the Americans are buying them up left-right-and-centre. Gear is leaving Canada at an enormous rate and it is not coming back in!"
    OM: "Do you sell over the Internet?"
    BJ: "I'm sitting on the fence between the people selling on E-bay and the backlash people... anti- cyberspace people who are saying that the planet is in a lot of ways being turned into a commercial community.
    "In ten years, I think tube-amps will be seen as collector items.
    "Essentially, if you are gigging, you need a basic tube amp. I mean, how much is a hammer worth to a carpenter?
    OM: "What about plying your trade as a musician?"
    BJ: "I at least try to break even. You can't really make money gigging unless you have been owning the same equipment for years and play the same places over again. I do it totally for the art of it, and the addiction too. (Bill laughs). I've done it since I was nine !"
    OM: "How did you start playing guitar?"
    BJ: "I had an uncle who had a '61 Gretsch Country Gentleman with lots of knobs & levers on it, and a cool amp with tremolo. He let me play that guitar when I was five, back in 69.
   "My brother was a good blues-harp player and he tried to engineer a little electric guitarist!
    He only offered me British blues and it wasn't until I was about 20 that I heard the real black blues music. Chuck Berry was the one that really did it for me, and I still play Johnny B. Good' at every gig...I remember the first time I heard it...driving with my dad down the highway when it came on the radio. I still love the way that guitar sounds."
    OM: "When did you get your own guitar?"
    BJ: "I was lucky. Someone gave me one when I was ten years old. Here's a funny story I can tell you because the guy has passed away. The principal, of the school called me via the intercom to attend his office and I was anxious as to what trouble I might be in. Upon reaching his room, he asked me, "where is your guitar?"
    "It's in the music room," I replied.
    "Go get it", he said.
    Then we jammed... with him playing banjo. After a while he gave me an electric guitar that he had bought for his son. And he gave me an old Gibson amp. I still have my first acoustic guitar, but that electric Woolco guitar has long since gone.
    "John Meares at Soft Sounds later convinced me to change the pick-ups to get a better sound. So here I was a little kid with a diamond- encrusted turd. (laughs.) My next guitar was a Gibson Les Paul which I played for years."
    OM: "Who did you admire as a guitarist?"
    BJ: "Bob Belknap is an excellent guitarist and we actually grew up together...virtually as neighbours... so I tried copying his chops.
    There were hardly any older kids in Brentwood Bay into psychedelic music at age twelve or thirteen. There was a band living next door to me and I heard them playing in the basement. That was such a coincidence living in a farming community and having a rock band next door, what are the odds, eh?"
    OM: "What music were you digging?"
    BJ: "The Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Cream, The Who. By the time we were doing shows we were playing Leonard Skynard, Bad Company, Neil Young, BTO and Beatles.
    "I didn't think there was such a difference between blues and rock back then. The music available to me was mostly rock and the transition between British blues and rock appeared seamless to me. By the time I noticed the difference and realized I didn't like the direction, it was 1984 with metal bands and I really wasn't interested in playing like that anymore. It seemed to be a contest who could play faster, who could copy a Bach lick and classical Gothic kind of music.
    "Then I discovered BB King and the black blues thing and I was trying to figure out what the heck was the difference between the way they played and the way I did and I couldn't really figure it out at that point. I had gone to Vancouver and done the Top-40 circuit and played with my group called Tyro' which eventually became Roxxlyde'.
    "I was actually quite good at playing this Rawk' music because I had this smoother blues sound than some of the more angular and rough guitarists of the time.
    "But I wasn't interested in the big-hair thing and the glam of it all. We had a kind of high-tech artsy band called Cinema' which folded and I went back to Victoria.
    "There I played with Flux'... a bluesier band with Norm Piercey (bass) and Brent Hutchinson (sax). And I also played with 'The Jimmy Lincoln Band' in 86, which was Jim McCullough (bass) of the Bucca Kings.
    "It was fun doing 50's and 60's rock 'n' roll and I made some decent money for three years. I met my first wife around that time... in 91 our son was born. And I worked as an electrician for eight years.
    "Our next band was the Tomcats' with Jim (bass), Don Peterson (guitar) and Ron Flatman (drums), but after about six months I quit, sold my amp and bought a mandolin and violin and learned "bluegrass".
    "I didn't play any more gigs until about 92 when Doug Cox called, asking me to join the Sidewalk Blues band'.
    OM: "How did the Bill Johnson' band start?"
    BJ: "One day I got a call from Rob Cheramy asking if I would like to play at Jazz Fest. Well I had been talking to Casey Dennis (bass) and Joby Baker (drums), so in 94 we opened for Delbert McClinton as my first gig fronting my own band. Later Kelly Kruse became the drummer and we really got into the blues.
    "Then in 95 I went to Denmark with the Lebeau-Petersen Band' for a great festival and in 96 my partner Sue and I left for Calgary where we started The Blue Cat Club. I met a lot of happening bands that were touring and I jammed with Dutch Mason, Johnnie V, Harp Dog Brown, amongst many.
    "When the club closed, I played with Don Johnson and Bill Dowie, who hosted the hardcore blues jam at the King Edward, where they have phenomenally good music.
    "It was a great experience to learn from many Prairie bands as they are influenced predominantly by Chicago blues and country music. They by-passed the glitz of the West Coast to some extent.
    "So I replaced Greg Demchuck, (or Junior' as they call him) in the Bill Dowey band when he moved to Vancouver to play with The Twisters'. Greg is now playing with the Rocking Highliners'. I'd say that he is the rising star on the Canadian Blues scene right now... he plays absolutely fantastic guitar, harp and vocals."
    OM: "You moved back to Victoria recently?"
    BJ: "Yeah, my Mum and Dad live here by themselves and they are getting on in years and so me and Susie enjoy being here again very much. She's got a full-time job as a school teacher now, after years of subbing and waitressing at Hermann's. And I opened the shop here and keep very busy."
    OM: "Are you writing songs?"
    BJ: "I'm working on my own CD every spare minute I have. Also, I'm collaborating with Ken Hamm and hopefully we will do a CD this year."
    OM: "Thanks and good luck!"

Bill Johnson's email: blueguitar@home.com

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